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@Dolphindream15 not only that restore them to good condition so then they can be truly admired by railroad fans

@Dolphindream15 not only that restore them to good condition so then they can be truly admired by railroad fans

@rexman92 oh wow that would be great to see I hope they film it I want to watch it being raised up,,I hope national geagraphic is there I hope its in the near future,,

@Dolphindream15 yeah espeshialy sence they aren relly made any more and theres are probly the only some what surviving trains

@rexman92 it would be historacol if they can raise them and restore them and see them run again on the tracks even if its only one time,,,what a truesure find! im ready to tune into the tv set to see them raise the engines,,hope its filmed,,,

@rexman92 i hope so to and i hope they film atleast some of the progress of them restoring them and when they finsh give em a befor and after pic

Somebody call Dirk Pitt!

WOMEN DRIVERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@GeoffBlackmore From research they have found that they were brand new and were headed south from Boston on a freight ship. It is believed that the ship started sinking during a storm and the locomotives were pushes overboard

@dracorider then shaking his head, throwing his flask overboard and going home to start a nice career selling insurance or some other mundane thing, trying to forget that last day on the water..

i know where that is wildwood

dont drive trains underwater mmkay? thats bad

They certainly can be raised and restored easy enough, the only problem is MONEY. There’s probably lots of these same engines in museums and collections though.

@dolphini55  HA HA HA YEA THATS RIGHT THE REAL REASON WHY THE TITANIC HIT THE ICE BERG WAS A WOMAN WAS ON THE BRIDGE AND TOLD THE CAPTIAN TO GO FULL SPEED AHEAD SMITH DID WHAT SHE WANTED,,AND THEN SHE BLAMES HIM,,,CRUNCH,,, WOMEN DRIVERS TITANIC PROVES THAT,,HA HA HA

@urbansculptures AS I  understand it these train engines that are in the water are from the time of the california gold rush and as I understand it theres only one in existance like it and thats in a railroad muesum in PA,,, I think thats why theres such a thrill about them only one like it that exists in a muesum in PA,,,MONEY yea it would take alot but they always seem to come up with the funds for everything else they want to raise

@Dolphindream15 could be, hard to imagine only one but these 2 have been corroding under water 100 years and parts are missing, it would cost a fortune to restore them, and then at what point does a restoration become a re-creation is another issue. I mean yeah they can replace the long gone stack, woodwork and other missing parts with new, but then you have a lot of replica parts, at some point it becomes more replica than restoration.

@urbansculptures yea that might be true but its still a part of americian history I think it still would be worth it,,if anything does happen I most certianly want to tune in,,,I wached them raise up the HMS HUNNLY on the national geographic channel,,,Im in hopes that the same thing can happen with these train engines,,,its all a part of OUR HISTORY,,,I LOVE IT,,,

@urbansculptures For you to say this could be restored is absolutley crazy, this wrecks cannot be saved, no matter how much money is spent, we have thousands of working trains from the 1800s as it is, This trains were made from Iron, Iron rusts and weakens, most of the shapes you see there are from the marine plants/life, most of the metal has long worn away and is a remnant of just rust.

@sydneysmooth21 Im sorry to disagree with you, but they certainly CAN be restored, not to factory mint condition of course, but you are thinking of steel corrosion, they didn’t have steel when these were made, steel corrodes rapidly and easily to oxides, cast and wrought iron do not act the same way. they will be pitted and some corrosion, and sheet metal perforated, but the heavy iron parts will be ok. They cant restore them to RUNNING condition with what is there of course.

@urbansculptures I am happy to disagree with you. Steel has been around far longer than locomotives. To bring these to running condition would be, as you said, a replica rather than a restoration. Getting the steam pistons to seal again would preclude the use of those original parts. But if they were to be static non-functional pieces, then it’s possible that they could qualify as a restoration. I still cannot imagine this being worth the required investment.

@BigGuyWhoKills well,the highly refined mass produce STEEL we know today wasnt, in the 19th century almost everything was cast-iron, or wrought iron etc those steam engines and castings, decorative ironwork were all crude sand cast and wrought iron not refined STEEL liek we have now.
I have pieces of exterior cast iron dating to the 1850′s just as crisp as new. Granted they were not in water 100 years but they were in the rain, something that would corrode STEEL in no time

@BigGuyWhoKills But yeah, it would be more replica than restoration to ever get running again.

Englishmen, Sir Henry Bessemer (1813-1898) invented the first process for mass-producing steel inexpensively,
Bankruptcy forced Kelly to sell his patent to Bessemer, who had been working on a similar process for making steel. Bessemer patented “a decarbonization process, utilizing a blast of air” in 1855.

The key is “INEXPENSIVELY” produced, cast iron was cheap

it’d be great if they could be restored.

could have been a wood transport barge that was lot to heavy weather?

Oh wow Atlantis!